tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post2170432637938747048..comments2024-03-27T22:53:00.759+01:00Comments on A Hippo On the Lawn: JusticeHippohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09468795398813061897noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-4150960644255313442012-03-19T01:09:36.702+01:002012-03-19T01:09:36.702+01:00Tom,
I hope his family see it that way too. All ...Tom,<br /><br />I hope his family see it that way too. All too often it can be worse as the abusers family want revenge regardless of the mitigating circumstances or his family cannot believe it was his doing.Nigel Peacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18316662790230511444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-88076347873583316542012-03-18T01:56:22.374+01:002012-03-18T01:56:22.374+01:00Hippo you are right on, and good luck. I was up-t...Hippo you are right on, and good luck. I was up-to-date on knowing that she'd been let off; I was saying it's sad, no matter what.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05409883521642115031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-48850699184543368652012-03-17T21:24:04.417+01:002012-03-17T21:24:04.417+01:00The thing is, this girl got away with it.
The com...The thing is, this girl got away with it.<br /><br />The community recognised that she did what she did and understand the reason why. We all knew he was a shit and none of us did anything. So she did it herself and we all feel guilty we didn't give the guy a good slapping ages ago. It is easy to talk tough after the event.<br /><br />She is back in the community and she'll get credit in my shop and, as a coommunity, we'll sort it out.<br /><br />I seem to recall a mother in UK with a severlely retarded daughter who felt her only way out was to toast herself and her helpless child in her car because of the abuse their community gave them.<br /><br />We are all cowards and blind as well. We need to start throwing a few more punches. It is easier to apologise for causing a thick lip than living with the tragic consequences of our apathy.Hippohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468795398813061897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-40068608663691123542012-03-17T21:05:56.972+01:002012-03-17T21:05:56.972+01:00Is it in cold blood if a slave stabs a master in t...Is it in cold blood if a slave stabs a master in their sleep?<br /><br />Gross insubordination I would have said.Hippohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468795398813061897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-61524992543524226392012-03-17T17:49:46.296+01:002012-03-17T17:49:46.296+01:00Is it in cold blood if a slave stabs a master in t...Is it in cold blood if a slave stabs a master in their sleep?<br /><br />Years of abuse take away from "cold blood". The blood boils and simmers, it never goes cold again. <br /><br />How sad.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05409883521642115031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-59982994127037304932012-03-17T07:12:38.907+01:002012-03-17T07:12:38.907+01:00In Australia there is a form of 'justifiable a...In Australia there is a form of 'justifiable assault' - I think many statutes may refer to it as "Constructive Assault" - whereby one assaults another, pre-emptively, as they are fearful for their well-being, if not their very lives. Of course, such and action must be proportionately carried out to the threat imposed or anticipated. The French used to have a similar situation under the heading of <i>crime passionnel</i> (or crime of passion) and was used as late as the 1950's.<br /><br />Any hoo's yourfather, it is amazing, as JohnG will verify, after we've both spent decades working in forensic psychiatry, you just never really know what goes on behind closed doors and the face on the street is only the face that they want you to see (or not - if you are the victim)!JohnDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00608216150220329902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-34257067247298601602012-03-16T21:35:24.510+01:002012-03-16T21:35:24.510+01:00Sounds like a clear case of self defence to me Tom...Sounds like a clear case of self defence to me Tom.<br /><br />She sounds (and obviously I don't know her) like she had suffered abuse for quite a while and was likely in no physical condition to actually stand up to the guy whilst he was concious and beating the crap out of her.<br /><br />There are cases like this springing up occasionally all over the world from time to time, and the sympathy is almost always with the abuse victim - tipped over the edge one day into doing something in self defence (albeit in a pre-emptive way).<br /><br />The collateral damage from this will probably stay with her and her kids for a very long time. Another tradgedy.<br /><br />Let's hope the law out there has some common sense.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11487456386841182116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-56286759125593230822012-03-16T20:34:56.234+01:002012-03-16T20:34:56.234+01:00Last month at quilt guild meeting there was a pres...Last month at quilt guild meeting there was a presentation about the BOSH prison quilt. (Battered offenders self-help group). The women in prison made a quilt which depicted some of the things that had happened to them, the images were graphic and horrific. It hung at the state fair, where it garnered much attention and became one of the most attended exhibitions in the hundred year history of the fair. The governor saw the quilt and as luck would have it was leaving office so didn't have to worry about public opinion. In 1995 clemency was given to ten women who had killed their significant others who had been beating (and worse) them. This was in the state of Kentucky. The law had been changed at the time but was not always followed in court. The change was in the language which was used to describe immediate danger. It is typical for women who are abused to take revenge at a delayed period. Another factor which convicted the women in Kentucky was that no one was allowed to speak ill of the dead so there was no testimony about the abusive behaviour by the men.<br />Sadly once the women were released from prison they were not allowed to contact any of the other members of the support group as condition of their parole.<br />It is good to hear that the woman is free. <br />HelenChurn Dashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13060909536864106475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-32755001962083680472012-03-16T18:54:47.330+01:002012-03-16T18:54:47.330+01:00I have zero tolerance for domestic violence, well ...I have zero tolerance for domestic violence, well i'm not a fan of any violence, really, but when i hear of an abused spouse offing the perp, i always think of it as justifiable homicide.<br /><br />As i youngster, i witnessed the aftermath of a domestic violence episode, and the victim was someone i dearly loved. I hated the perp SOB. They divorced, he left the area, and it wasn't a moment too soon. I have no doubt this set my zero tolerance metre to the extreme.<br /><br />Glad to hear your local lads in blue doing what they can to promote justice.<br /><br />meganmegan blogshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04555646904983619596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-74375542356766807532012-03-16T18:43:58.253+01:002012-03-16T18:43:58.253+01:00Ursula, I am keeping up with you so far.
She wai...Ursula, I am keeping up with you so far.<br /><br />She waited til her husband was asleep before stabbing him so by any legal definition it was in cold blood but I agree, she must have been boiling with rage.<br /><br />It wasn't the judiciary that dealt with it, it was the police and the way they framed their report that got her off.<br /><br />She will have to appear in front of a tribunal but they will just rubber stamp the police report.Hippohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468795398813061897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-55754446962028612292012-03-16T16:10:45.679+01:002012-03-16T16:10:45.679+01:00Glad of the update, Tom. I was going to squabble o...Glad of the update, Tom. I was going to squabble over your "cold blooded". I'd have thought her blood boiling after having been beaten up one time too many.<br /><br />If she had been compos mentis why shoot herself in the foot by killing the guy? Who wants to sit in prison when you have children pining for their mother?<br /><br />Full marks for how swiftly the Angolan judiciary works.<br /><br />U<br /><br />PS Tom, I hope that, considering you find my comments "incomprehensible", I haven't tested the limits further than your considerable talents stretch. CheersUrsulahttp://bitchontheblog.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-15869213221337648842012-03-16T13:56:33.940+01:002012-03-16T13:56:33.940+01:00Blimey. I hope not behind every door in every vil...Blimey. I hope not behind every door in every village!<br /><br />It is not yet two in the afternoon and I am more than a little squifffy. The police commander has been round and told me the woman will be out of nick tonight. Verdict, justifiable self defence. Naturally I had to crack one open and toast the common sense of his investigative team.<br /><br />It'll be hilarious when she comes into the shop next time. I'll make damn sure I get her change right...Hippohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09468795398813061897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8512022050229968490.post-30784166896333300652012-03-16T13:24:05.041+01:002012-03-16T13:24:05.041+01:00we never know what exactly happens behind closed d...we never know what exactly happens behind closed doors...... violence and abuse is behind every door in every village in the world!John Going Gentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958171262765033946noreply@blogger.com